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Subject:Re: Will you please stop playing all this standard scenarios?
Posted by: Just4Fun - 21years 354days ago.
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First, I'd like to say that I support a player's right to set up any game they want. If they want to play Standard games, let them! If you don't like it, don't sign up for those games. If you're worried about the statistical advantages they standard game players have, get over it. The stats are flawed in many other ways already. Even if everyone played Advanced rules, they would still have little meaning.

Now, on the the references that (1)standard games are for cowards and (2)the implication that playing the standard game requires more skill. Both of these are exaggerations. The Standard version is more like chess. A good player can calculate when a head-on pass is OK or more precisely know when an opponent's engine is destroyed. The standard game exaggerates the differences between the planes. Good planes become relatively better. A Bristol becomes much tougher when you may have to chew through 40 wing hits to put it down than when a single red can kill the pilot. It is possible to know that you can give an opponent that table 6 shot and there is NO WAY you can be shot down. This is not the case with the advanced version.

The Advanced version has a greater luck factor, but I think the level of skill required to play it well is equal to or greater than the Standard version on account of the increased element of chance. Sure, anyone can get lucky and shoot down an opponent with a single red, but over the course of several games, good players will still have good records and poor players will have less stellar stats (all other things being equal).

As a comparison, the difference is that my kills to deaths ratio while playing similar aircraft/scenarios for Advanced games is about half of what it was when I played Standard games (as MaxMM Schlecht). Am I less skilled now?? I don't think so. Was I a coward then? I hope not! In spite of my relative decrease in success since I switched over, I still like the Advanced version more because it is a better model of WWI air combat than the Standard game. There is more uncertainty and, for me, that makes it more fun as a game. As I said at the top, if someone likes Standard rules games more, for whatever reason, then that is what they should play. End of story. Have fun!

DBurkeG wrote:
Well.... Since this is directed at me

I don't know if it is because people join the standard games so FAST, but there are easily 8 to 1 advanced vs standard games available at most times. The world rotates around me sindrome comes from the fact that I often find no standard games available and then I make one or two standard games. I join others advanced games but seldom if ever creat them.

The "standard version is for cowards" is obviously humor because advanced and simplified games play directly to the less skilled.

In our real world BM games we pulled out the Blue Chit instakills, does anyone know if they are in this version?

Oh, since I fly one of the highest percentages of standard games.

In any version of the game skilled pilots will
a) try not to be shot from close range unless u r shooting the shooter and they are stalled.
b)avoid range one frontal shots unless in a two seater returning the frontal shot.(who is brave, and who is foolish)

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