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| City: | Wynne, Arkansas  | | Personal Data: | Male, born: November 26 1954 | | Membership | 22years 106days ago. | | Last Login | 4years 336days ago. | | Last Move | 4years 326days ago. | kduke is currently  | Send a mail to kduke |
| Message header | Area/Game: | Blue Max | | Topic: | Site-maintenance and Administration | | Subject: | Re: New scenario: Nieuport 17 Vs SiemensSchukert-DI: | | Posted by: | kduke  - 22years 25days ago. |
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So, was it SSDI a copy of Ni.17 with different materials or where they just similar planes created independently?
It was intended to be a copy.
You need to understand the "evolution" of the early to mid-war planes.
"In the beginning," the Eindeckers pretty much had their own way, not because they were a great fighter plane (they weren't) but because they were the best shooting platform. As British "pusher" planes got better and the N 11 put its Lewis on the top wing, the Eindeckers turned into easy meat. The German answer was planes like the Halberstadt D models, the Fokker D-II, etc. The N.17 was head and shoulders better than those and nothing to match was close to production, so the Germans said, "Just copy that one.") In a later war, they would consider manufacturing the T-34 tank for the same reason.) But the German airplane industry was very different from the allied, starting with the trees in Germany. The best kind of wood for these planes was spruce-- most especially a type called "Sitka spruce," which grows primarily in the US Northwest (and which was a big export from the US to the allies while we were "neutral." German woods are mostly too soft or too heavy, so they made do with lots of plywood or light tubing. The Germans simply could not really "copy" the Nieuport 17, so they did the best they could. Siemens S. made the best known copy, altho Euler also made a copy (which had an open lower cowel and looks more like an N-11). Like Angelino says, the German plane was slower overall and had a lower rate of climb, but almost certainly was more sturdy (and hardly anyone sewed linen on wings like Nieuport did, so the SS D1 probably lacked that problem as well.)
Much as I like Blue Max and even more like the charts to Canvas Eagles, this is one place they made a quick assumption and guessed wrong.
Canvas Eagles does offer a N-11, which-- tho not identical in performance to the SS-D1 is probably a lot closer than the N-17, so one could use that chart and add a few extra hit boxes to the wings and fuselage and call that pretty accurate. |
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