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| City: | Mahomet, Il.  | | Personal Data: | Male, born: August 15 1948 | | Membership | 22years 344days ago. | | Last Login | 7years 214days ago. | | Last Move | 12years 208days ago. | Phil Hall is currently  | Send a mail to Phil Hall |
| | Message text Mea Culpa if I misunderstood your position regarding GW. I agree that this is a religious war, at least on their side. I don't believer we are out to destroy them because of their religion, which is what religious wars are about. I think, being a multi-religious country, that we would have a hard time engaging in the destruction of another religion. It is indeed a religious war on the side of the people who prosecute it. They use parts of the Q'ran to justify what they do. Christians have perverted the bible the same way. Study the Crusades. That doesn't mean that Islam is bad, just its usage in this manner. Sort of like the NRA position that guns don't kill people, people kill people. I have always found it odd that no legitimate religion condones war, but more people have died in religious wars than in any other.
As to where we will be, probably in the same boat with Israel. They have undergone terrorist bombings for literally decades. We have our own homegrown bunch. Look at McVeigh. The main problem with winning a war on terror is that the regular military isn't the answer. Spec ops are a better choice, along with firm alliances with countries that have terrorist problems also and really good intelligence. If we hadn't invaded Afghanistan, allied ourself with Pakistan on the QT, then sent drones looking for bin Laden, we might just have killed him the way we did his henchmen in (oops, brainfreeze. Country the Cole got blown up in)
Terrorists don't need to be a large group, and in many cases they aren't. A few dozen people can do just what was done to us. It won't bring the country down. Terrorism has never once accomplished any of its goals that I know of. Northern Ireland is a good example, as is Israel. Terrorists are merely inadequate, foolish people who have never amounted to anything and need to feel they really are someone. You can't ever win a war on terror as long as there is one person willing to die for it.
I think we both agree that the Patriot Act is a bad thing that is accomplishing nothing. A newspaper story claims that of several thousand arrests, only about one quarter are prosecuted and only about one quarter of those result in conviction and the average jail time is 14 days. I believe that shortly after the PA took effect the Philly police arrested a basketball player and charged him with making "terrorist threats" against people of an apartment he broke into looking for his wife. Good example of why we can't give up our freedoms to catch terrorists.
I do still believe that Iraq is an "agenda war" for the neo-cons (They aren't who people think they are. Former Liberals who became disenchanted with the Dems on defense). The war on terror, and their high positions in the government simply gave them a chance, on the flimsiest of excuses, to take out SH, a program they were advocating since 1996. We can't afford to allow the government to paint everyone we don't like with the label of "terrorist" because if we do, the real ones will fade into the mess we will creat |
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