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Area/Game:Blue Max
Topic:Suggestions, improvement, critics
Subject:Re: Clarification
Posted by: markrendl - 15years 102days ago.
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GraysGhost wrote:

Here is where my logic took me and why I asked the question:

You have a 4 v 4 game.

Side A has one plane shot down and two retire with Honour. The fourth team member shoots down three of the opposition and thus has a massive points total.

That player now has his engine shot off and leaves the board from the nearest edge – without honour.

Honour matters because retiring with honour means that you are counted as still being on the playing area.

The player who left without honour wins a Strategic Victory and gets a lot of points as under the league victory conditions he has the most points (even if halved) and his side have more planes on the playing area (two with honour retirees).

His opponent who remains on the playing area does not benefit from having shot off the engine and if he is lucky gets two points, probably only one.

Therefore leaving the playing area without honour in large multi-player games may have a direct bearing on the result.

If in the above scenario the player leaving without honour is adjudicated as having zero points then the result is completely different with it being classed as a probable draw.

Therefore with a differentiation between honour being whether a plane is classed as on the playing area at the end of the game or not, how pilots who leave without honour are dealt with matters.

Does my initial request for clarification now make sense and am I misunderstanding something?


Well, one point of correction...

If side B had one plane on the map at the end, then side A could only earn a Tactical victory at best, as a Strategic win requires "One side completely destroy the other and remain the only side on the map." Hence, if A lost one plane, had 2 previously retire with honor and then the final one retired. They'd have 2 planes considered on map, but Side B would still have the sole survivor in the sky, and thus, deprive A of a Strategic win.

The retiring without honor pilot would still net a tidy 7 league points probably, cause the points for shooting down 3 planes would likely still make him best pilot for his side, even with his score halved.

Looking at your specific game...

You could've likely opted to fly off and still outscored your one surviving opponent at that time. By a strict reading of the victory conditions, you'd likely have gotten a marginal victory due to your score advantage. You couldn't score a tactical victory, if I read it correctly, as you wouldn't be counted as on board at the end of the game, unless you retired with honor of your own base line.

markrendl


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